It's Personal...

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:16 pm

Alternatively say "exactly half an inch" and then people will no to do it as precisely as they are capable of.

Hiram McDaniels · Post by **Hiram McDaniels** » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:25 pm

virgil wrote:In my line of work, we have to worry about your shops hearing "half inch" and deciding that means .5+/-.125 or something

Any shop worth a damn should set their tolerances within the range of the customer spec tolerances for that dimension; so if you need like height .603" +/- .002", then our tolerances are going to be .603" +/- .001".

virgil · Post by **virgil** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:58 am

I was specifically referring to your "goddamn it Norman!" example. Granted, half inch was the tolerance itself...

violence in the media · Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:12 pm

I don't think it's just your shop. Around my workplace, as well as with customers and suppliers, everything is in thou as well. 125 thou, 30 thou, 5 thou, and half thou are all used when discussing tolerances.

Hiram McDaniels · Post by **Hiram McDaniels** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:24 am

violence in the media wrote:I don't think it's just your shop. Around my workplace, as well as with customers and suppliers, everything is in thou as well. 125 thou, 30 thou, 5 thou, and half thou are all used when discussing tolerances.

Yeah...I'm sure that's standard parlance and I'm just being a pedantic 'sperglord about it.

Speaking of which...I have on more than one occasion corrected someone on their spelling of the word "pedantic". I wonder if that counts as irony.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:22 am

Hiram McDaniels wrote:I have on more than one occasion corrected someone on their spelling of the word "pedantic". I wonder if that counts as irony.

i·ro·ny
ˈīrənē/
noun

1) the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
2) a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.
3) a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.

Nope.

Hiram McDaniels · Post by **Hiram McDaniels** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:24 am

angelfromanotherpin wrote:
Hiram McDaniels wrote:I have on more than one occasion corrected someone on their spelling of the word "pedantic". I wonder if that counts as irony.

i·ro·ny
ˈīrənē/
noun

1) the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
2) a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.
3) a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.

Nope.

Ahh. I stand corrected.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:06 am

Update on the small cousin what got shot in the head.

He is fine. They replaced the piece of his skull they'd removed to make room for swelling (somewhat preventatively. It worked, too). He's in a room and healing up fine. No personality alterations, lack of coordination, difficulty speaking, seizures, or other signs of brain damage.

His older brother is also fine. He's getting counseling once a week, started the school year, and he's not super-traumatized (though I think everyone has impressed Gun Safety For Six-Year-Olds on him). For a while, he was coming over in the evenings to play some Batman and hang out with me as a reward for good behavior in the day (he was staying with his great-grandma who lives nearby, and I'd babysit/hang out with him for an hour or so a day to give her a clear field for phone calls he shouldn't hear. And because he's a fun rascal to pal around with).

The problem comes from their family. Specifically, their mother and their grandmother. Check the spoiler, I needed to vent and lay it out for myself and it's fucking long.

To keep this straight, I'm going to lay out the cast, identified with an initial.

j--my aunt, the great-grandmother of the boys involved. She actually rents a lot from my parents. I live with the folks (paying rent and helping out), and she's frail so I tend to stroll over at least once a day and see if she needs help with anything and how she's doing.

D--The grandmother, J's daughter.

M--The mother of the boys.

B--Brother of D. A really good guy. Married, three kids of his own, lives about forty minutes away. Turned out the sanest and stablest of my aunt's kids.

V--The paternal grandmother of the hospitalized boy.

So it went like this: Of course social services investigated the situation and concluded that it wasn't safe. They checked with various family members to see who would take the boys. V volunteered to take her grandson. This was sort of a best-case scenario--she's a registered nurse, her husband's an ER doctor, they live between two of the local hospitals, their social circle includes a lot of medical types, they're well-off financially. They are absolute golden to take care of him if any complications DO occur.

D and M threw a fit because V hadn't talked to them in about six months before this, entirely because of D and M trying to mooch money off her.

They expected J to back them, or take the boy and let one or both of them move in with her. J said "Not no, but hell no." Because of past experiences of them trying to live together as adults.

All parties concerned are extremely proud and stubborn with a long memory for old slights. It's just not a viable long term thing. And D and M didn't get it off on the best foot because they told the social worker that they were moving in with J -before- they ever talked to J about it. In fact, J found out from the social worker, which gave her what felt like a kick in the gut.

This set off B, who knows his sister very well. He had a long talk with his wife, and threw his hat into the ring after giving the social worker an earful on his sister's history of manipulation, lying, and relying on the help of others. He filed for and got custody of the older boy.

V got custody of the younger one after the social workers got to see D and M's behavior in the hospital. Neither one of them can keep control of their tempers at all. So when confronted with certain unpleasant facts--that they've lost custody--they came unglued every time they saw V coming to visit. Eventually the hospital staff moved the boy to another room--and didn't tell them the room number and they've asked family not to tell them the room number.

So of course they threw a fit about that, too, and got themselves ejected from the hospital and forbidden re-entry.

You think they'd take this on the chin and just go home but, nope, they hang out across the street on stakeout watching for someone to come up.

So now the boys are doing fine--great, really, circumstances taken into account--but two immature people are causing all this family drama and making this a lot noisier and messier than it has to be. B and V were going to try to remain on civil terms with them, let them have visitation and other things, but their behavior has been such that that's really not likely now. So D's current idea is to try to lie to the social worker about this--but they don't know that there's a social worker tracking them, that they haven't been introduced to. THis one's been in the hospital with them about the whole time, and talks to the nurses and all. So if they're dumb enough to try to take it to court, they are going to get seriously embarrassed.

If there's any good qualities to them right now, D and M -do- love the boys and they're convinced, a fucked-up way, that they can provide the best care for them. But they're so self-centered that they just hate what is, as near as I can tell is going through their heads, losing. Or being deemed unfit.

So yeah. I hesitate to use the term 'trash', but certain relatives of mine have been living up to the definition lately.

Count Arioch the 28th · Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:57 am

Geez, what a fuckarow. Hope things work out for the kids, and glad to see that one is recovering from being shot (in the fucking head, no less).

I just spent an extended weekend with what I would consider to be the perfect woman. Although it was sad to watch her leave, the fact that I spent 4 days with someone literally so awesome I didn't think people like that existed does put me in high spirits.

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:58 pm

Thank you for the update. I'm glad the boy are thriving.

Maxus wrote:(though I think everyone has impressed Gun Safety For Six-Year-Olds on him)

Have the others been impressed with gun safety for adults?

Meikle641 · Post by **Meikle641** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:37 pm

If desired I can send you a hard or pdf copy of the Canadian Firearms safety textbook.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:49 pm

Maj wrote:Thank you for the update. I'm glad the boy are thriving.

Maxus wrote:(though I think everyone has impressed Gun Safety For Six-Year-Olds on him)
Have the others been impressed with gun safety for adults?

They have been now, but most of that bunch doesn't do guns. It was M's boyfriend who was such a dumbfuck he left the gun at her house. Speaking of.

I just found out today that M and the owner of the gun (her semi-boyfriend) have been arrested on two counts of child endangerment. Her for not providing a safe environment, him for leaving a loaded gun at a house that isn't his. Apparently they were waiting to see how the boy was going to do before they decided the severity of the charges. Now that he's expected to make a full recovery, they brought the warrants.

Well, in point of fact, M found out about the warrants last night, called the boys to talk a bit, and went on and turned herself in this morning. Not easy for her to do, by any means, and I'll give her points for going on and doing it instead of trying to hide out or flee.

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:19 am

I'll give her points for that, too. That's good to hear. I'm glad that this turned out to be a recoverable event.

Hiram McDaniels · Post by **Hiram McDaniels** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:12 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Geez, what a fuckarow. Hope things work out for the kids, and glad to see that one is recovering from being shot (in the fucking head, no less).

I just spent an extended weekend with what I would consider to be the perfect woman. Although it was sad to watch her leave, the fact that I spent 4 days with someone literally so awesome I didn't think people like that existed does put me in high spirits.

That is an awesome feeling. Congratulations.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:41 am

Well, I have a new pc. I installed ubuntu because I'm sick of dealing with the problems of Windows and paying for that is a line I will not cross. I then bought a wireless dongle because durrrrr, laptops have built in wireless cards. Aaaaand it connects for maybe a minute before disconnecting until I reboot.

So presumably that's a problem with the dongle, but as this is my first foray into Linux I have no idea. It may be some time before I have real internet access.

Omegonthesane · Post by **Omegonthesane** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:49 am

Koumei wrote:Well, I have a new pc. I installed ubuntu because I'm sick of dealing with the problems of Windows and paying for that is a line I will not cross. I then bought a wireless dongle because durrrrr, laptops have built in wireless cards. Aaaaand it connects for maybe a minute before disconnecting until I reboot.

So presumably that's a problem with the dongle, but as this is my first foray into Linux I have no idea. It may be some time before I have real internet access.

I wouldn't be surprised if you needed some kind of special driver to run the dongle in question. When my first laptop became too unstable to run Windows and I reanimated it as an Ubuntu machine, I needed a driver from the internet to run the wireless card that allowed it to connect to the internet.

...is how I remember it anyway, but if you're getting a minute of connection before it gives up it's probably not to do with drivers.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:34 am

Koumei wrote:Well, I have a new pc. I installed ubuntu because I'm sick of dealing with the problems of Windows and paying for that is a line I will not cross. I then bought a wireless dongle because durrrrr, laptops have built in wireless cards. Aaaaand it connects for maybe a minute before disconnecting until I reboot.

So presumably that's a problem with the dongle, but as this is my first foray into Linux I have no idea. It may be some time before I have real internet access.

Why dongle?

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:59 am

Because the PC didn't come with an inbuilt wireless card and I forgot to specify that because for the past 6+ years I've just been using laptops, which have all come with wireless cards. That said, by plugging a massive fuck-off blue cable in, I have Internet. But can't for the life of me get Steam working. I seem to have installed it, but it won't actually run. I might just need to see if anyone I know has a copy of Win7 they're not using, or that fell off the back of a truck or something. I mean, I like the overall layout and the free-ness of Ubuntu, but so far everything has been a case of googling shit and then doing command-line bullshit every step of the way.

Fuck, there's a lot of trouble involved with the PC Master Race.

Starmaker · Post by **Starmaker** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:49 am

My athlete has just won PBP.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:13 pm

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Count Arioch the 28th · Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:03 pm

Hiram McDaniels wrote:
Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Geez, what a fuckarow. Hope things work out for the kids, and glad to see that one is recovering from being shot (in the fucking head, no less).

I just spent an extended weekend with what I would consider to be the perfect woman. Although it was sad to watch her leave, the fact that I spent 4 days with someone literally so awesome I didn't think people like that existed does put me in high spirits.
That is an awesome feeling. Congratulations.

Yeah. Too bad I had to watch her leave though (she will not be a permanent part of my life, unfortunately).

RadiantPhoenix · Post by **RadiantPhoenix** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:52 pm

Koumei wrote:so far everything has been a case of googling shit and then doing command-line bullshit every step of the way.

Fuck, there's a lot of trouble involved with the PC Master Race.

When I started using Linux, I dual-booted because I was afraid of exactly this. Eventually, I wound up using Linux all the time.

On the bright side, if you keep this up, you'll be a computer guru in no time!

Dual-booting is set up like this:

Install Windows.
Make sure you have a bunch of free space.
Install Linux, using the "advanced" install option on the regular disk to re-configure into custom partitions.

If repartitioning seems confusing to you, I would recommend finding someone who isn't confused by it to explain things to you the first time, but if you can't do that, give it a whirl yourself -- worst case scenario, you have to reinstall the OS you just installed an hour or two ago.

You will want roughly five partitions:

One NTFS partition for Windows. Roughly 40GB, and don't keep your media here.
One ext4 partition to be mounted at "/" for Linux. Roughly 20GB.
One ext4 partition to be mounted at "/boot" for Linux. Roughly 250MB.
One swap partition for Linux. Roughly the size of your RAM.
One NTFS partition to be mounted at "/home" for Linux and used to store your media on Windows. Make it as big as possible.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:58 pm

I tried to upgrade my laptop to Win10, but it ran out of power mid-upgrade. I got it working again, but now I'm having trouble loading my campaign on roll20.

Just my campaign, and primarily on Chrome. I can load up the campaign I'm playing in, and I can load up my campaign on firefox, though it's not perfect.

I've tried it with all extensions off, tried it with my firewall off, checked for malware and tried a new user profile, none of these worked. I can load it on my desktop just fine.

What's the easiest way to figure out what driver or whatever got fucked up and repair it?

edit: Oh, I'm running Win7 on the laptop. The upgrader got borked too. I'm kind of glad, now that I've been using Win10 on my laptop and been putting up with it's shit there (yeah, I know you can see me, Microsoft, fuck Win10).

GreatGreyShrike · Post by **GreatGreyShrike** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:30 pm

Running multiboot for windows and ubuntu sounds really good in theory. However, when I actually tried it, my hard drives were eventually, after a few months, corrupted sufficiently badly to require complete reformatting of two different laptop computers. Your mileage may vary here, and it may have since gotten better since I was doing this (in the era of 11.04/11.10). However, I was done with trying to run Ubuntu stuff natively after the second time this happened. I have switched to running Windows with ubuntu on virtualbox for everything I need ubuntu for.

More than half the time doing anything more complicated or interesting on Ubuntu is done via the command line, usually after extensive googling to find what the actual command line stuff you need to do is. It's really bad and unfriendly for most user's perspective, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who has any alternatives.

radthemad4 · Post by **radthemad4** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:21 pm

I dual boot Linux Mint (a lot like Ubuntu, but designed to be more familiar to Windows users, e.g. has a start menu, minimize, maximize and close buttons are on the right, etc.) on my pathetically underpowered netbook. It had become so slow on Windows XP that the mouse cursor used to lag even with nothing open and running. I figured that I might as well try this Linux thing since the thing was damn near unusable. Windows is still there though I don't use it anymore on that machine (I do have and only use Windows 7 on a desktop with a real video card though). Linux Mint isn't super smooth on it or anything, but it performs way better than XP does on that machine.

So, it can make old almost unusable machines usable, which is pretty cool.